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'll get an update. >>> also, congressman paul ryan says the republicans are putting a temporary debt ceiling extension on the table. but if they don't take strong measures on the spending sequester and other budget cuts, they're going to be in danger of being out of office and losing the house in 2014. >>> now, president obama, many of our leaders never seem to talk about the real root causes for crime, economic failure and violence. i'm talking about the breakdown of families. talking about the absence of faith-based moral teachings in school. and the shrinking number of people even attending religious services. can we prevent future tragedies if we focus more on family values and faith? here now to help us with this, father george william rutler the church of our savior in new york. and the rabbi shmoley, author of "the broken american man and how to fix it." rabbi, let me begin with you. most of the mass murders and horrible events are committed by men or young boys. >> that is absolutely right. >> and i want to go there because that leads me to family breakup and that there are n
. between now and april when paul ryan unveils his budget. you are boeing going to see hig for his cuts. they want him to take the lead when it comes to reform. >> you heard president obama yesterday. i dare say he does not want spending caughts and i dare say he would be happy to see in reverses in government spending. so that does not jive with what the house is doing. >> that is a fair point. some critics say inside of the house conference there is a real fight. they want to take these bold stances on the ten year balanced budget so they can get some leverage to fund the government when it comes up for a vote in a couple of week. >> no, i think they are doing the lord's work. thank you very much. we have a couple of special guests to tell us more. democrat from vermont, shawn duffy, republican from wisconsin. to both of you gentlemen friends of this show i wish you a happy new year. mr. boehner attached a bublg et to this. >> there are no specific cuts. where in medicare or the pentagon are they going to cut? they have to specify that before you can have a serious conversation. i don
. paul ryan, where are you? we need more spending cuts, more entitlement reform and even some tax reform especially business tax cuts to spur economic growth. my two cents. here is an old friend, david walker, founder, president and ceo of the come back america initiative. he knows a lot about this. david, let me ask you this. is boehner wrong to insist that a dollar debt increase should be accompanied by a spending decrease? >> the fact is we need to pay our bills. and i do however think that we have a spending problem. the federal government has gone from being 2% of the economy, 100 years ago. to 24% today. headed to 37% by 2040 absent a change in course. the republicans ought to leverage the sequester and the c.r. not to shut down the government, but we need to reduce spending. we also have to keep in mind if you try to hold the debt ceiling hostage, social security is negative cash flow. therefore, that means you could face a situation where the social security checks don't go out on time. the last time we faced that, it was 1983. and that was the only reason we got reforms. that wo
didn't hear it from paul ryan, and i didn't hear it from the leaders. and that's the part i don't get. the debt ceiling, three months, whatever. the continuing resolution, that's a little bit in the weeds. but all right. fine. you can work with that. but i didn't hear them say what that was going to mean for spending, either. >> that's a great point, larry. they're not articulating spending cuts enough. but when you have someone like paul ryan at this retreat in williamsburg leading the effort behind the scenes for the short-term extension, he's telling members, especially the skeptical back benchers, that when that cr comes up in a couple months, when that sequester fight comes up and defense cuts in a couple months, house republicans will push for the spending cuts but they don't want to lose the pr bat toll a president who's very adept at pointing his finger at republicans and saying they want to cause default. >> okay. i think they're losing the pr battle anyway. >> perhaps they are. >> i mean, i don't know. i know obama's very fassel, but i also know democrats will never cut spen
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